How much RM035 really weighs

Jun 04, 2011,03:28 AM
 

I've seen greatly varying accounts of how much the RM035 weighs. In this forum, 35g is mentioned. On various versions of the announcement I've seen both 41g and "under 20g". On Richard Mille's web site, the specs for RM035 list the exact weight of the movement, along with other minutiae, but no mention of the total weight of RM035. This is surprising, since the RM027 is mentioned as being 18g with the strap, and 13g without the strap.

Fortunately, it's possible to figure a fairly precise estimate of the weight of RM035, establishing it is around 20g, and certainly much lighter than the 35g mentioned here.

It's possible to make this estimate based upon measures of the RM010. Here's how I did it ...

First we need to know the volume of the case metal for the RM010. Using a precise gram scale, I weighed my titanium RM010 and found it to be 65g with the kevlar strap and titanium deployant (actually 64.99g was the weighing). I have a friend who weighed his white gold RM010 and got 165g. Thats's a difference of roughly 100g (assuming his 165g weighing with a less precise balance is accurate). Since titanium has a density of 4.5 g/cc and 18K white gold has a density of 16.9 g/cc, it's easy to compute the volume of the case material to be 100g/(16.7 g/cc - 4.5 g/cc)=8.2 cc.

I should mention, this volume computed is the total volume of all the titanium metal on my RM010, including both case and buckle (my friend's RM010 has a white gold case and white gold buckle, but everything else is the same on our RM010s).

Let's assume that the RM035 has a case that is no thicker than the case of the RM010. It wouldn't make sense for it to be thicker if they are trying to reduce the weight! The density of the magnesium-aluminum alloy on the RM035 case and buckle is 1.8 g/cc. So, if the RM035 had the exact same dimension case as the RM010, the RM035 would be lighter by the following amount: 8.2cc(4.5g/cc - 1.8 g/cc)=22.1 g.

But, we have to adjust for two things. The RM035 is actually a little thinner (12.25mm vs 13,84mm) than the RM010 and the RM035 does not have a sapphire display back. The 2 sides of the RM035 are roughly 13.84mm - 12.25mm=1.59mm=0.159 cm thinner. Assuming a case thickness of roughly 0.2 cm (2 mm) and a length of each side roughly 5cm (it's 48mm but curved), then the thinner RM035 is also this much lighter: 2 (1.8 g/cc)(0.159cm)(0.2cm)(5.0cm)=0.57 g.

More of a savings results from not having the sapphire display back. The RM010 has a sapphire display back that is 1.0mm in the center and 1.7mm at the edges. With a little integral calculus it follows that a sapphire back with a uniform 1.39mm would have the same volume. The display back is roughly 28mm x 30mm. Sapphire is 4g/cc, so its mass is roughly 4g/cc(0.139cm)(2.8cm)(3.0cm)=4.7g. Assuming once again a case thickness of 2mm on the RM035, it has a mass of magnesium-aluminum case in place of this sapphire case back weighing a total of 1.8g/cc(0.2cm)(2.8cm)(3.0cm)=3.0g. So, not having the display back means a savings of 4.7g - 3.0g=1.7g.

Much more savings comes from the strap. The RM035 has about the same polyurethane strap that the RM027 uses. Since the RM027 weighs 18g with that strap and 13g without that strap, the polyurethane strap weighs 18g - 13g=5g. I weighed an old one of my RM010 kevlar straps (identical to the one on my RM010) and it came to 10g. So, using the polyurethane saved 10g - 5g=5g.

Further savings comes from not having the titanium deployant which weighed in at 7g.

The movement of the RM035 is essentially a RM010 movement with a few modifications to make it lighter. The main modification is removing the rotor, which I've heard weighs about what a US nickel weighs, or 5g.

Putting all this together, we can estimate the weight of the RM035 from the weight of the titanium RM010 as follows:

65g (Titanium RM010) - 22.1g (case material) - 0.57g (case thickness) - 1.7 (no display back) - 5g (lighter strap) - 7g (no deployant) - 5g (no rotor)=23.6g.

So, the "less than 20g" is posible if there are 3.6g of further savings in the movement rework. But, it should be quite clear from the above estimates that 35g and 41g are too heavy for RM035.

In any case a weight of 23.6g is quite impressive for the RM035. That's about 1/3 the weight of a RM010! You'd think that Richard Mille would want to mention that in its press releases, instead of simply mentioning the weight of the movement.

Greg


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Very scientific!

 
 By: KIH : June 4th, 2011-04:05
I just believed this number measured at the boutique with the correct strap and the buckle on. Says 41g. But this was the auction piece with white model number. So, that may be a bit different.... Interesting to letting us wonder about this Bottom line - ...  

Then here's what's amazing ...

 
 By: gls : June 4th, 2011-15:31
After figuring it should be possible for it to weigh 23g, it's surprising to see a weight of 41g clearly shown on the scale! Are you sure there isn't a weighing pan or something that needs to be subtracted? In other words, what weight is registered after ... 

Good point.

 
 By: KIH : June 4th, 2011-15:55
.. but I was there and the scale was showing "0g" before putting 035 on. So, let's hear what Stephen will find out when he gets his one! Ken

Sure thing Ken! [nt]

 
 By: BluNotte : June 4th, 2011-18:39
No message body

One of the earlier releases states that

 
 By: BluNotte : June 4th, 2011-18:49
The RM 35 is 15 grams weights to the 27, and assuming if we take even the lightest weight of the 27 that is the watch without the strap which is 18 grams, you get 33 grams. That is believe is the weight of the 35's case, and makes sense if you plus 2 from... 

don't want anyone to think I'm criticizing RM035

 
 By: gls : June 4th, 2011-19:48
I'm just trying to make some sense of why it weighs a lot more at 41g than the 23g I figured it ought to weigh. I just assumed that the ultra light-weight magnesium-aluminum alloy was used to make the case much lighter. It still doesn't make sense to me t... 

this explain the mystery

 
 By: gls : June 5th, 2011-17:56
Recall that I computed the volume of the RM010 case based upon a difference between the weighings of my titanium RM010 and a friend's white gold RM010. Although I weighed mine precisely to within 1/100 of a gram, it seems my friend's weighing was not so p... 

As far as I understand it...

 
 By: KIH : June 5th, 2011-18:07
... there is no difference except for the white model number. Should "33.6g" include strap/buckle? Sometimes people talk about the weight with/ without the strap, at least in case of 027... Ken

weights with and without straps/buckles

 
 By: gls : June 5th, 2011-21:44
Ok, if there is no difference between the auction version of the RM035 and the regular one, then I still can't account for the difference between 33.6g and the measured 41g. The 33.6g does includes everything, so it includes the strap and buckle. I've rea... 

If your calculations are true

 
 By: BluNotte : June 4th, 2011-07:54
I'd turn out to be an even happier man! Whatever the final results are, the lighter it becomes, the better! Also i have a scale newly purchased ready to measure this beauty the moment i get it, so do stay tuned and we shall see what the final production v... 

eager to hear the results

 
 By: gls : June 4th, 2011-15:33
When will you have the RM035 and be able to weigh it? Greg

I'm hearing things all the way

 
 By: BluNotte : June 4th, 2011-18:31
From as early as September all the way to November! Who knows?! But rest assured that i will do the weighing and post the shot soon after! Cheers Stephen