Why I bought an 05 vs other models ....

Jul 29, 2006,08:20 AM
 

Steve H suggests that RM enthusiasts prefer bigger watches and don't really like the 05--and that 05 buyers were people who needed "entry" level pricing.

I disagree. I bought the 05 because I really preferred it to other RM models--and I still do. There are numerous factors:

1. I really liked the look of RM watches--and all models to the untrained eye have the same je ne c'est qua (sp)or charisma.

2. My personal taste puts a premium on "the look" and quality of a piece, rather than movement complications. The 05 met both criteria. For that reason, the only "tourbillon" type watch I own is the Freak, because it met all of my criteria. I feel the same way about Vianny Halter pieces--but don't own one, yet.

3. When I tried on other RM models, at MUCH greater cost, I got the same overall feeling with the 05 because it shares the same DNA--so, as a consumer, it just made sense to spend less.

Antecdotally, I've seen two people on the street wearing an 05. Both times, my eye was drawn to their watches--and I swear, just 5 weeks ago and after owning two 05's, I asked the owner, "what model of RM is that?"--thinking it was a higher priced model, not the 05. Honestly, without looking close up, I just see RM. All his watches are mesmerizing and captivating on the wrist.

Now, I have been a vocal critic of RM's marketing of the 05; and I really don't know what to make of the 10--but from the pictures I've seen, I can't say that the 10 is an improvement. Personally, I think the 05 is not "small", physicially or visually. Here again, I disagree with Steve H, that bigger is better and that the 05 isn't big enough for the RM crowd. I have big case watches--A.P. Montoya, Panerai Fiddy, IWC Big Pilot--but I don't consider bigger to be better--especially on high end pieces. Certainly, 39-40 mm is big enough and most collectors, would agree as do manufacturers (Patek, Lange, Dufour, R.W. Smith and even Rolex--just to mention a few). I respect manufacturer's who don't modify their lines to suit trends. Certainly, the movement in the 10, which is the same as the 05, didn't require a longer-thicker case. Whether 40mm or bigger becomes the "standard" long term or not, the 05's size will always be a "classic".

I'm going to go out on a limb with a prediction: if RM's line stands the test of time--and the jury is still out, when the 10 hits the market, after a period of hype, it will not be perceived as an "improvement" over the 05, just sleigthly different. I think some people will prefer the 05 case size and style-shape (take a close look at the length and width of the 10 and see for yourself. There is a subtle beauty the 05 has the 10 does not); and some people (not necessarily collectors but followers of RM) will value owning a discontinued model on the psychological basis of "scarcity" and it was the "first".

I said it before, and I'll say it again (diplomatically), IMHO, it behooves RM to protect the perception of his "entry" level watch more, because the tail often wags the dog.




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RM10--what does it mean for the RM 05??--your best guess please....

 
 By: PamLover : July 28th, 2006-05:17
I predicted on this forum, shortly after the RM 10 was announced, that RM would discontinue to 05 model. Every once and a while I get it right. What does the decision to discontinue a popular model line so soon mean to existing owners of the 05, in favor ... 

my speculation

 
 By: SteveH : July 28th, 2006-07:19

RM005 is not really my favorite model,

 
 By: Carlfa : July 29th, 2006-08:08
I am really looking forward to the RM010. It is also actually an upgraded entry level basic model but I like it better than 005 (only from the pictures I saw here on Purists). So whatever happens to price and collectabillity of 005 doesn't bother me. It's... 

info RM011 please!

 
 By: Koen S. : July 29th, 2006-10:10

My guess...

 
 By: Rob : July 29th, 2006-02:14

A few thoughts to keep in mind....

 
 By: 219 : July 29th, 2006-09:21
1. As far as I know, the RUMOUR that the RM005 will be discontinued is the fact that the market has pushed back on the 005. It was thought that the 005 and 010 would co-exist, but the orders for the 005 are making it uneconomic for the line to continue. H... 

there are customers and there are customers

 
 By: ei8htohms : July 30th, 2006-01:01
Hi Andrew, I think it bears keeping in mind that IF the 005 has been or will be discontinued due to lack of dealer orders that doesn't necessarily reflect a lack of interest from consumers, it just means that the dealers anticipate a lack of interest and/... 

And interestingly enough, I have heard of more than one case where

 
 By: ThomasM : July 30th, 2006-05:05
DEALERS were contacting previous customers of the 005 offering to buy it back, since they have customers who just HAVE TO HAVE one... this is a strange market we are in... TM

even more interesting

 
 By: SteveH : July 30th, 2006-12:24

Re: A few thoughts to keep in mind....

 
 By: Huitieme : July 30th, 2006-01:01
just to let you know the RM010 are out....and I'm wearing mine tonight.. size is just right 4 me....

You say "the market has pushed back on the 05 ...uneconomic to continue" ...I say ...

 
 By: PamLover : July 30th, 2006-06:06
...Andrew, what does than really mean? From what I know, the 05 was selling well, since it was the only under 100K RM model, and appealed to many very saavy watch buyers (TM and so many others on this forum) and still does. When RM 10 was announced, I sta... 

Demand in some.......

 
 By: faiyaz : July 30th, 2006-01:13

RM005 strap

 
 By: Mike : July 31st, 2006-08:20
According to all the RM literature the RM005 is a true sport watch...swim, play tennis, ski etc. I get the feeling that most of the owners have not subjected their watches to anything more than a spectator sport? Otherwise, why leather straps??? Should no... 

The strap is actually quite high tech and to call it "just a leather strap"

 
 By: ThomasM : August 1st, 2006-09:09
or "satin strap" is a gross understatement. I have no problem playing tennis or working on my car with mine on; I know several others in here who do as well. Why would you reach the conclusion you do in your post? Many people use even "plain old leather s... 

Strap

 
 By: Mike : August 1st, 2006-01:13
I find leather straps very uncomfortable once they get all sweaty, stinky, and hard once they dry off. A composite would be more appropriate for this high tech watch, then you could even use them for water sports.